tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post9199463060420472655..comments2024-02-13T23:24:30.941+11:00Comments on Proto-Knowledge: Building "A Young Lady's Illustrated Primer"Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03077260171699038035noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-64776067081657954722016-08-01T06:54:34.170+10:002016-08-01T06:54:34.170+10:00I realize this post is ancient by net standards, b...I realize this post is ancient by net standards, but awesome has no expiration date and Diamond Age continues to colonize my mind with some regularity.<br /><br />I was wondering about the way the various recipients of the Primer turned out so different from each other. Fiona lives in a fantasy world, due to her father doing much of the racting for free. Elizabeth - the one the book was created to 'subvert' her away from a life of hypocrisy - rejected both the subversion *and* the hypocrisy. Nell, who started out most like a blank slate, became the most self-actualized person in the book.<br /><br />But a quarter million Han daughters also had the Primer, and none of them turned out like Nell. They became the 'Mouse Army', and the stories the Primer told them were focused on finding and helping their mysterious missing Queen.<br /><br />So why did the original three copies create three fiercely idiosyncratic characters, but the following quarter million copies create an army of people who would eventually pledge fealty to Nell, after spending *their* time with the Primer going on quests to find Nell, unlike Nell's quests which sought to sharpen her mind and body to be ready for greatness.<br /><br />I assumed it was likely a cultural thing, but I somehow managed to miss this:<br /><br />“I must make it clear to Your Honour that the Primer is, in large part, a ractive — that is, it requires the participation of adult ractors. While one or two extra copies might go unnoticed, a large number of them would overwhelm the built-in system provided for paying for such services.”<br /><br />“Then part of your responsibility will be to make alterations in the Primer so that it is suitable for our requirements...” Judge Fang said.<br /><br />“... I can build in automatic voice-generation capabilities — not as good, but serviceable.” At this point, John Percival Hackworth, almost without thinking about it and without appreciating the ramifications of what he was doing, devised a trick and slipped it in under the radar of the Judge and Dr. X and all of the other people in the theatre, who were better at noticing tricks than most other people in the world. “While I'm at it, if it pleases the court, I can also,” Hackworth said, most obsequiously, “make changes in the content so that it will be more suitable for the unique cultural requirements of the Han readership.”<br /><br />In the original three copies "the education is there, but it's darker... lots of unreconstructed Grimm Brothers content." The raw stuff of fables, continuously adapting to the reader through the help of systems like those in your diagram and, in the case of two of the books, voice ractors who had a personal interest in the well-being of the reader. But Hackworth - his name itself being both clue and typically Stephensonian pun - changed the Primer when he made the copies for Judge Fang.<br /><br />So... how do *you* think those changes were accomplished?<br /><br />Looking at your diagram, it is possible that the mechanism for this was in the "Socio-cultural Constructivism" block. But the ideological key seems, to me, to be a change in the "Independent critical ('subversive') thinking" block. Lord Finkle-McGraw wanted the Primer to *subvert* Elizabeth, to develop her critical thinking skills enough to save her from a life of hypocrisy. Hackworth's 'trick' decoupled subversion from critical thinking... he wanted not to *subvert* the Mouse Army, but to *stabilize* them.<br /><br />His reasons for doing this were not clear to us, because they were not clear to Hackworth. But his 'trick' turned out to be exactly what Dr X and Judge Fang wanted him to do; by the time Hackworth fouund the Alchemist, the Mouse Army had found Nell, who was using ideas from her Primer - and, perhaps, Hackworth's skill as Artifex, abstracted through the Primer's dreamspace - to create Seed technology that could change everything. And to find Miranda, making this the only Stephenson book that has made me cry.SayWhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12295430721259394704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-82695346059106455822015-02-03T23:29:01.030+11:002015-02-03T23:29:01.030+11:00Hi Heath,
Thank you for your interest. There has b...Hi Heath,<br />Thank you for your interest. There has been a lot of work in the area of 'intelligent tutoring systems', for example to teach students mathematics or computer languages. These systems work reasonably well for narrowly defined areas of knowledge with clear 'correct/false' analysis to which the system can react. However, there are no such systems to support areas like creative writing.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03077260171699038035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-87936458148234176872015-01-26T11:35:50.587+11:002015-01-26T11:35:50.587+11:00Beat -
I just stumbled across this article while ...Beat -<br /><br />I just stumbled across this article while researching the prospects for building an artifact akin to the Primer.<br /><br />Have you done any further work on this topic, or can you recommend related papers / works on the subject? Anything's greatly appreciated.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />- Heath<br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09402487929510217285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-14990620267652648722014-10-09T04:56:03.900+11:002014-10-09T04:56:03.900+11:00http://learning.xprize.org/
The game is afoot and...http://learning.xprize.org/<br /><br />The game is afoot and I think my job as a teacher might be on the line...<br /><br />I remember seeing something like the Primer in JJAbrams' new Star Trek where Spock was being grilled on astrophysics or something. The teacher just wandering around the students' 'tutor pits', doling out discipline and moral correction. <br /><br />I knew when I saw it that it was the Primer and I wanted to build it... unfortunately teaching takes absolutely hours every week! Colinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12240516060886798553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-57557325080791217142014-02-28T01:04:10.214+11:002014-02-28T01:04:10.214+11:00I'm reading the book at the moment and had the...I'm reading the book at the moment and had the same (I guess quite obvious?) idea of making the Primer. Thanks for this post and the extra info - especially about the project in Ethiopia - awesome and quite far along then! Also, weirdly, I found this page because I was emailing IBM about the Primer as an idea for Watson (which you also mention). Clearly, this is an idea whose time has come (although the martial arts might be a few decades off yet). Stephenson predicts the future (again!)Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04272778054724911869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-80198877442821835732014-02-07T04:24:05.752+11:002014-02-07T04:24:05.752+11:00Great article. I think It's completely related...Great article. I think It's completely related to this video of cgp grey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vsCAM17O-MAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16092798931203567146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-42121016627578182572014-01-12T20:00:51.755+11:002014-01-12T20:00:51.755+11:00Männergruppen Back in the grim old past ladies sk... <a href="http://www.beziehungs-dynamik.de/" rel="nofollow">Männergruppen</a> Back in the grim old past ladies skis used to be just a matter of putting 'girlie' paints usually pinks and purple on existing skis or simply altering the binding mounting position of the skiAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14614820675245811609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-61972865749268356442013-11-01T18:56:08.420+11:002013-11-01T18:56:08.420+11:00Congratulation for the great post. Those who come ...Congratulation for the great post. Those who come to read your article will find lots of helpful and informative tips.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.onlinemarket360.com/products/Lenovo-%252d-15.6%22-IdeaPad-Notebook-%252d-6-GB-Memory-%252d-750-GB-Hard-Drive-%252d-Dusk-Black.html/" title="Lenovo - 15.6" rel="nofollow">Lenovo - 15.6" IdeaPad Notebook - 6 GB Memory - 750 GB Hard Drive - Dusk Black</a><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544003491166166039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-373575194018954232013-02-23T21:01:27.748+11:002013-02-23T21:01:27.748+11:00Hi Beat,
You have written glorious.
vanntettingHi Beat,<br />You have written glorious.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.th-service.no/" rel="nofollow">vanntetting</a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02919074554562455003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-75882872445207444022013-02-21T10:46:11.186+11:002013-02-21T10:46:11.186+11:00I read "The Diamond Age" well over a dec...I read "The Diamond Age" well over a decade before the iPad. What does Dr. Ayers have to do with anything? He's not mentioned in the book, on this page, and is not part of the OLPC or Leappad projects.sainthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979619362890027431noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-23304006072729201622012-12-04T06:08:34.091+11:002012-12-04T06:08:34.091+11:00Thanks for this article! It makes it easy for me t...Thanks for this article! It makes it easy for me to explain the Young Lady's Illustrated Primer to my friends :)<br /><br />CheersLandon Wilkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15011677530758609506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-4294412449672699532012-08-13T00:53:23.326+10:002012-08-13T00:53:23.326+10:00Here is an example. http://inquireproject.com/Here is an example. http://inquireproject.com/Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03049481023440992288noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-1722128934131011102012-06-22T18:22:18.853+10:002012-06-22T18:22:18.853+10:00I read The Diamond Age some years before the IPad....I read The Diamond Age some years before the IPad. Good stuff. Turning a tablet pc into "primer" is something that is close at hand but (and its a BIG but!) i'd be remiss not to point out that Dr. William Ayers (look it up) is a Doctor of *education*. This might be a problem.Hurricane567https://www.blogger.com/profile/01043739055386994733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7299948195765163705.post-15042496008142160312012-01-14T13:14:42.276+11:002012-01-14T13:14:42.276+11:00Love your blog. I have had exactly this thought fr...Love your blog. I have had exactly this thought from the moment I first wiki'd the Stevenson book. This concept is key: revolutionizing education by creating an app that can form fit to a kid from birth to help bring them the knowledge, skills, and habits required to be successful, happy, and good people.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00537948040644942746noreply@blogger.com